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Board of Zoning Appeals Meeting Minutes

September 11, 2003

         MINUTES

 CALL TO ORDER:                Cherry Linder, Chairman

 ROLL CALL:                          James Rinehart, Cherry Linder, Pat Cain, Brian Leary, and Mark Pyles were present. Robert Bender was absent.   Also present was Doug Miller and Leeann Shroder.

 Cherry Linder                          Ms. Linder swore in those persons who will be giving testimony.

MINUTES:                              Minutes Board of Zoning Appeals, August 14th,

                                                There was a motion  _by Mark Pyles to approve the Aug. 14th, 2003 minutes as written.  There was a second  _by Pat Cain.

                                                                                                           

                                                Roll Call Mark Pyles-Yes, James Rinehart-Abstained, Cherry Linder-Abstained, Pat Cain-Yes and Brian Leary-Yes. The motion was approved.

CASE 2003-499                   3152 Vivian Drive, Accessory garage request to allow to be  built in the side yard of a single family residence.

 Staff Presentation                Tim Hershner gave the description of the property.  He said under Section 25.12B all detached accessory buildings are to be in the rear yard.  This garage is already built and is in the side yard.  Mr. Hershner made reference to some color photos in the board member’s packets.  He said the builder installed the garage and the owner, Sonja Mize, assumed the builder had obtained the proper permits.  After Ms. Mize realized the builder had not gotten the permits and the zoning department realized the situation, she was given a letter from the zoning department to let her know she was not in compliance.  Mr. Hershner said in the event this board recommends approval of this case there are 3 conditions as follows:

1.                  The detached garage shall be completed as shown on the submitted plan.

 2.                  Any additional future accessory structures on the property must be located in the rear yard, setback no less than 5 feet from rear and side property lines.  The total floor area of all accessory buildings shall not occupy more than thirty-five (35) percent of the area of the required rear yard, or 1530 square feet.  The area of the subject garage is 316 square feet, so an additional 1214 square feet of accessory structure would be permitted.

 3.                  The existing row of six foot deciduous shrubs along the east property line shall be maintained in healthy condition and replaced as necessary. Mr. Hershner said under #3 the additional 1214 square feet limit could possibly allow a deck or something like that. 

DRAFT Proponent                Sonja Mize, 3152 Vivian Drive, Loveland, stated that the builder did the garage and did not finish it.  Ms. Mize said she has an attorney.  She said the garage is still unfinished.  She still needs a ramp and leaf guard gutters installed like she has on her home.  Attorney Richard Hurchanik, 110 North 3rd Street, Hamilton, said there is a lawsuit in process.  He said the builder obtained an attorney and the garage is not finished.  He said Ms. Mize trusted this builder to do the job right.  Ms. Mize paid $17,660 to this builder.  Mr. Hurchanik said this lady has been cheated.  The builder took a check for her to apply for a variance and that is when she realized he wasn’t going to follow through with it.  Ms. Linder asked Mr. Hurchanik the builder’s name.  Mr. Hurchanik said his name is Darrell Johnson and he built the garage without plans.  Ms. Linder asked if there was a contract and Mr. Hurchanik said it was verbal.  Mr. Hurchanik  said Ms. Mize is an elderly widow and she maintains her house in an attractive manor.  Mark Pyles said the siding looks like it matches the house.  Ms. Mize said she requested that the garage siding, gutters, and roof match her home.  Pat Cain asked her if she gave the builder a check.  Ms. Mize said she found a paper from the zoning department  in her door and she had to pay for a variance.  She wrote a $300 check made out to Deerfield Township for the variance and the builder did not give it to the township.  Ms. Mize then wrote a second $300check to cover this hearing tonight.  Ms. Mize said if she is being fined $100 a day for not being in compliance with her garage, how she will be able to pay for it.  Doug Miller said the way that works is that letter  she received is more or less a warning letter.  Mr. Miller told her she has not been officially charged yet for the violation so there is no $100 per day cost.  Mr. Hurchanik said Ms. Mize was taken advantage of and is a victim here.  Ms. Linder closed the open portion of the case.

 

Board Discussion                 Pat Cain said it is obvious she maintains her property very beautifully.  Mr. Cain asked Tim Hershner if adjoining property owners have been notified.  Mr. Hershner said a sign was put up to notify and he did receive some calls with questions.  Mark Pyles asked Doug Miller, is it the home owner or the builder responsible to get the permits.  Doug Miller said ultimately the property owner is responsible but that is why you have a general contractor on jobs.  Mr. Pyles said we can have some flexibility because of the ample setback and he doesn’t have a problem with this.  Ms. Linder asked everyone on the board to look at the conditions.  Doug Miller said the conditions are fine.  Ms. Linder said on #3 a statement should be added that the shrubs along the east property line should be maintained and whoever lives there or whoever owns the bushes, that the shrubs should stay.  Doug Miller said those bushes are there to provide a buffer to those neighbors.  Mr. Miller said if those neighbors remove the bushes, that is their problem.   Brian Leary said if a breezeway had been put in, they could go all the way over to 5 feet from the line.  James Rinehart said #3 needs to be deleted.

 

Motion                                    There was a motion by Pat Cain  that Case 2003-499 be approved  with  2

Conditions.

 1        The detached garage shall be completed as shown on the       submitted plan.

2        Any additional future accessory structures on the property must be located in  the rear yard, setback no less than 5 feet from rear and side property lines.  The total floor area of all accessory buildings shall not occupy more than thirty-five (35) percent of the area of the required rear yard, or 1530 square feet.  The area of the subject garage is 316 square feet, so an additional 1214 square feet of accessory structure would be permitted.

There was a 2nd by Mark Pyles.

Roll Call  James Rinehart-Yes, Cherry Linder-Yes, Pat Cain-Yes,  Mark Pyles-Yes, and Brian Leary-Yes  The motion was approved.

                                                                                                                                                            DRAFT

 NEW BUSINESS                  Review & Approval of 2004 Calendar of Board of Zoning Appeals Calendar. There was discussion on the 2004 calendar and dates in November.

 

Motion                                    There was a motion by Brian Leary to approve the 2004 BZA meeting schedule as presented.  There was a second by James Rinehart.

 Roll Call  James Rinehart-Yes, Cherry Linder-Yes, Pat Cain-Yes,  Mark Pyles-Yes, and Brian Leary-Yes

The motion was approved.

 

OTHER NEW BUSINESS     Tim Hershner asked the board for their direction.  Mr. Hershner said Kevin Fehring, the zoning inspector,  has raised an issue with an application for Borcherding Collision Center and their request for wall signs.  There formerly was  a Subaru dealership at that location.  Now the collision center has a car rental service.  This zoning department has had a history of allowing multiple wall signs for instance,  Kings Ford, but by code, one wall sign is allowed, with a maximum  a 150 lineal feet.  While our code does say cumulative, it does say one wall sign and one ground monument  sign.  Tim asked the board for their opinion.  Doug Miller says if this board interprets the code that you can only have one sign of 150 lineal feet,  then staff may as well assume that interpretation, if the board agrees.  Tim said it is in the code under  page 104, Section 22.10 paragraph B, under 1, small letter a.  It says that each occupant  is allowed to have a sign but they do have two occupants, the collision center and the car rental.  Cherry Linder asked Tim where it says “just one wall sign” and Tim said under the small letter a, it says “each occupant.”  Pat Cain said it should be cumulative, so many square feet of sign for so much frontage.  Doug Miller asked, “When you say maximum cumulative sign face area, is that the wall sign plus the ground mounted sign?”   Tim said we look at that as just the wall sign.  Tim said the ground mounted could be 35 square feet and the wall sign could be up to 150 square feet.  Tim said the question is,   “are they limited to only one sign?”  James Rinehart said he commends Kevin since he is trying to do the best he can for the township but he is like Pat, we look at square footage.  Doug asked if this is being looked at in our zoning code text changes (revisions).  Tim said yes it will be.  Brian Leary said the worst case scenario is having 4 businesses in there and 4 signs on the wall as long as it is under 150 square feet cumulatively.  That is what Kevin is trying to prevent.  Cherry Linder said these rules apply to strip centers.  Ms. Linder said it is two businesses they should each be allowed to have their sign but not to exceed 150 square feet.  Ms. Linder it is determined by how many occupants.  Tim said on office buildings, each tenant gets a sign, that wouldn’t be good.  Tim said in some of the offices north of Lowe’s most are allowed 2 tenant wall signs for the anchor tenant  and then the others only have their name on their front glass door.  Doug said he interprets it to read one business can have a sign up to 150 square feet, but if you have two businesses, those two signs must add up to a cumulative of 150 square feet.  Doug said it is one wall sign per business but the signage cannot exceed 150 square feet, no matter how many businesses have signs there.  Tim showed the Borcherding proposed sign.  Tim said it is 88 square feet.   There was more discussion.  Mark Pyles said he wondered how often the literal interpretation of the code could force someone into having to go to the appeal process.  Tim said almost all the

auto dealerships have more than one wall sign. 

DRAFT Doug Miller said the code is clear to him that you get ONE wall sign and after that if there is more than one wall sign because there is more than one occupant, those signs cannot total more than 150 square feet.  Mr. Miller said if it is a matter of that’s what the code says and everyone keeps coming in for a variance, and everyone keeps getting a variance, then the code needs to be changed.  Cherry Linder thanked Tim  for this discussion on the interpretation. Chris Burns with ATA Architecture, was present on behalf of Borcherding.  There was discussion about logos and whether they are signs.  Doug Miller said a logo is a sign.  Pat Cain said he supports that rule that the cumulative sign space be in compliance.  Doug Miller said if people keep asking for variances, and keep getting variances, then the code may need to be changed.  Doug said different people interpret the code different ways.  Mark Pyles says a literal interpretation of the code provides the opportunity to look at the situation in a “case by case” basis, saying does this make sense.  Doug Miller said the purpose of the board is to look at those cases and say “it’s okay in this case, it’s not okay in this case.”  Mark Pyles said it is Kevin’s job to enforce the code.  Mr. Pyles said if it was simply a matter of enforcing this code, there would be no reason for this board.  Mr. Pyles said he thinks Borchering should apply for a variance.  Doug Miller said the problem is how many signs are allowed.  Doug said if someone came in with 10 signs but they total less than 150 square feet.  James Rinehart said this should be on a case by case basis.  Brian Leary said many communities in their code will give a bonus on their signage on walls if they don’t have any free standing signs. 

 Pat Cain excused himself from the meeting at 8:00 PM.

There was discussion on the dates of the changes to the zoning code book.  Cherry Linder realized her code book was old and she needs a  different one.  Tim gave her another book.  Tim said Mark Pyles thinks Borcherding should come back in.  Mark said if the zoning inspector thinks  in his best judgment this should come before the board.  Doug Miller said if you just tell staff,  “don’t worry about it,” you get others coming in wanting to do the same thing.   Cherry Linder said she doesn’t think it is quite right to take a pole to see what the board’s opinion is.  Doug Miller said do these people need to come in?  The board agreed that Borcherding must come before this board.

 

OTHER NEW BUSINESS     James Rinehart asked Doug Miller about the final decision on the CHCA case.  Doug said the discussion of that case must be done in executive session.

8:10 PM Executive                Motion by Mark Pyles to enter into Executive Session.  There was a second

Session                                  by James Rinehart.

Roll Call  James Rinehart-Yes, Cherry Linder-Yes, Pat Cain-Yes,  Mark Pyles-Yes, and Brian Leary-Yes

The motion was approved

ADJOURNMENT                   8:20 PM