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Board of Zoning Appeals Meeting Minutes

December 11th, 2004

 6:30 PM – Trustee Meeting Room

CALL TO ORDER:                Cherry Linder, Chairman

ROLL CALL:                          Cherry Linder, Robert Bender, Pat Cain, Mark Pyles, and Alternate Brian Leary were present.  James Rinehart was absent.  Also present was township attorney Doug Miller.  There was discussion on whether to consider voting for the minute approval because of who was and who wasn’t in attendance at the last meeting.  Cherry Linder said she would move the minutes to a later time.  Cherry Linder thanked Mayank Kumar for the thorough staff report and Mark Pyles added the same compliment to him.

CASE 2003-708                      Sign Variance, Lot 15 Kings Automall, Palm Beach Tan

Staff Presentation                Mayank Kumar said the code allows a 30 square feet sign on a 54 feet building frontage.  He pointed on a map the location of the Palm Beach Tanning Salon.  He said the township usually allows one square foot for each linear foot of wall space.  He gave history of signage for previous tenants at this location.  Cherry asked the board for questions.  Mr. Kumar said they asked for the same mount of signage as the other tenants in the shopping center and they want the same as the other which are all 300 square feet.  Mr. Kumar said in 2002 Great Clips applied for a variance for 9 square feet in excess of 22 square feet.  Mr. Kumar said this request was denied.  From 1998 to 2003 the zoning board has become more stringent.  Robert Bender asked to look at the photos which were projected on the wall.  Mr. Bender said the height of the letters would be 18 ½ inches which would exceed the 16 inches which is visible from Fields-Ertel Road from a previous case.  Pat Cain said where is this shown in the code.  Mr. Kumar said one is institutional and business which is 22.10 and the other one is for the shopping center, 22.10 B.  Mr. Cain said he did appreciate the chronology of how we got there.  Mark Pyles asked Mr. Kumar if the applicant alluded to any hardship in the application and Mr. Kumar said no.  The only argument was that they wanted to have the same size as the other tenants.  Mr. Pyles confirmed that the Great Clips, the Country Wide, and the Delux Cleaners are all 30 square feet.  Mr. Kumar said they are.   Doug Miller said if the palm tree logo was removed, how much would that reduce the sign. Ms. Linder asked the proponent  to come forward.

 Cherry Linder                        Ms. Linder did a swearing in of those who will be giving testimony.

 

Proponent                             William Yusko, Atlantic Sign Company, 2845 Ridge Ave., Hebron, Ky 41048, said they want to be consistent with the other tenants in the shopping center.  Mr. Yusko said those tenants have more square footage.  Mr. Kumar told the board that there is a photo of the proposed sign in each board member’s packet.  Mark Pyles asked him which tenant is he comparing his sign to in the shopping center.  Mr. Yusko said he is comparing his sign to Great Clips.  Mark Pyles said Great Clips is a 30 square foot sign.Robert Bender said that earlier tonight it was stated that in order to have visibility   from Fields-Ertel Road, that 16 inch letters must be used.  Mr. Bender asked him if he did any studies on that.  Mr. Yusko said he recommends 18 inches or better.  Mr. Yusko said the letters are internally lit with neon.  Mr. Bender asked him if this is part of a larger chain.  Mr. Yusko said it is an upscale chain of tanning salons.  Doug Miller said if the logo was smaller, the sign might fit.  Cherry Linder asked for any public who wanted to speak.  There was none so she closed this portion of the meeting and asked for board discussion.

 

Discussion /Recommendation

Cherry Linder said there are guidelines in place and we should abide by those and not allow a variance.  Pat Cain agreed.  Mr. Cain said this board has not allowed a variance for a shopping center sign.  Doug Miller reminded the board that they gave a variance to Crossroad Bar and Grill on Western Row.  Tower Grill and Penn Station were allowed a variance.  Mr. Cain asked to what degree did we give them.  Doug Miller asked what is being done under the new zoning texts.  Tim said we usually allow one square foot per linear foot of frontage.  Tim said Penn Station and Tower Grill were brought in toward compliance but they are still not in total compliance.  Doug Miller asked if we are making change in the zoning code update.  Bob Bender said we did this with Karen Taylor Salon and they had this huge gable so we allowed a larger sign to go in there and help fill up some of that space.  Tim said they put a group sign for multiple tenants out in front of Landen Square.  Cherry Linder said unless there is a hardship we should not allow this sign. 

There was a motion  by Cherry Linder to deny Case 2003-708.  There was no second so the motion so the motion died.  Bob Bender said maybe we can use this to eliminate temporary banners.  There was discussion on the frontage being broken up into two sections.  One portion of the building sits closer to the road than the other portion.

 There was a motion by Robert Bender to approve Case 2003-708  and that they must adhere to the 4 following conditions:

1)      The wall sign shall not exceed 53.2 square feet and must be located on the left side of frontage only.

2)      The wall sign shall be located on the building in the location shown in the application.

3)      No more than1 square foot of signage shall be allowed for each lineal foot of building frontage.

4)      If the lineal frontage in the building of the business to which the sign applies is reduced, the sign shall be reduced so that the square footage of the sign will not exceed the lineal frontage per foot of the tenant space.

5)      No temporary signs or banners shall be permitted for this business occupying this tenant  space.

There was a second by Pat Cain.

Roll Call  Cherry Linder-No, Robert Bender-Yes, Pat Cain-Yes, Mark Pyles-Yes

The motion was approved.

 

CASE 2003-732                      9679 New Castle Court, Variance to build a detached garage in the side yard

Staff Presentation                Mayank Kumar gave the staff report and showed maps photos of the house.  There is an in the ground swimming pool on the property.  The proposed shed is 8 x 10 feet.  The staff suggested moving the shed close to the house instead of the location shown by the applicant.  Cherry Linder asked the board for any questions.  Robert Bender explained where the shed should be located because of the shape of this lot.  Mr. Kumar explained the yellow line and where the shed should be.  He explained why this proposal is not in compliance with the code.

Proponent                             James Modafari, 9679 New Castle Drive., Mason, OH, said he considered the suggested location bu was afraid someone would get on top of the shed and jump in the pool.  Pat Cain asked him how will the shed look.  Mr. Modafari said he has planned to match the shingles on the roof of the shed with the house and match the color of the shed with the color of the house.  He said he would put some shrubs to hide the shed and utilities on the side.  He explained the utilities are electric meter, telephone, automatic pool cover, plumbing, filter, etc.  Robert Bender asked him is he is in a HOA and his house is not.  Cherry Linder asked for other board questions.   Cherry asked him if some other locations in the yard were considered and he said yes.  Bob Bender asked him about the doors of the shed. 

 

Discussion / Recommendation                         

Robert Bender said that due to the odd shaped lot, and since there is no HOA, it could be in a worse location.  Cherry Linder said she did not believe this variance should be allowed.  There was some discussion on the view of the proposed building from neighbors and from the street.  Mark Pyles said there is probably one point where you can see that part of the house where the shed is proposed.  Pat Cain said buffering would block that.

 There was a motion by Robert Bender to approve Case 2003-732.  There was a  2nd by Pat Cain.

 Pat Cain advised Mr. Modafari that there is a list of shrubs which are suggested in the Deerfield Township Zoning Code.

 Robert Bender made another motion to amend his motion to include 2 suggested conditions from Doug Miller.  Mark Pyles seconded that motion.

 1)                  That the shed be completed as shown on the submitted site plan.

2)                  That any additional future accessory structures must be located in the rear yard and compliant with the Deerfield Township Zoning Resolution.

 Mayank asked Doug why he put  the #2 condition in there since the township code doesn’t allow additional accessory structures.  Mr. Miller asked to leave this condition in there.

Roll Call  Cherry Linder-No, Robert Bender-Yes, Pat Cain-Yes, Mark Pyles-Yes

The motion was approved.

 Robert Bender thanked Pat Cain for his work on the Board of Zoning Appeals over the years.  Cherry Linder agreed.  Mr. Cain said he has enjoyed his time working on the BZA.

MINUTES:                              Minutes Board of Zoning Appeals, November 13th, 2003

                                                There was a motion by Mark Pyles to approve the minutes of November 13, 2003 as written.  There was a second  by Cherry Linder

                                                Roll Call Mark Pyles-Yes, Pat Cain-Abstained, Cherry Linder-Yes, Robert Bender-Abstained   The motion was approved.

ADJOURNMENT                   There was a motion to adjourn.  There was a 2nd_Mark Pyles.            

                                                Roll Call  Mark Pyles-Yes  James Rinehart-Yes, Cherry Linder-Yes , Robert Bender-Yes, Pat Cain, Yes   The motion was approved.