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Meeting at 3292 Montgomery Road                          DEERFIELD TOWNSHIP

Landen Station Shopping Center              BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS

Deerfield Township Meeting Room                                  6:30 PM – AUGUST 11th, 2005

          MINUTES

CALL TO ORDER:                By Brian Leary

ROLL CALL:                          Cherry Linder, William Heckman, Brian Leary, James Klatte, and Alternate Mike Kean were present.  James Rinehart was absent.  Also present was Township

                                                Attorney, Andrew Gleason.

                                                                                                           

Minutes                                  Motion to approve minutes of 07/14/05 by _James Klatte  2nd by _Cherry Linder.

                                               

Roll Call:  Brian Leary-Yes, James Klatte-Yes, Cherry Linder-Yes, William Heckman-Yes, Mike Kean-Yes  The motion was approved.

 Brian Leary                             Administered the oath to those giving testimony.

 CASE 2005-448                      Appeal to setback of AC Unit & Utilities @7829 Plantation Drive, Lot 92,

                                                Greenfield Place 2

 Staff Presentation                Lois McKnight explained the request for the variance at the 7829 Plantation Drive from Don & Anita Pippin.  Ms. McKnight said she explained to the Pippins that the house is in compliance with the township zoning code and zoning does not regulate the locations of the Air Conditioner units on properties.  She said there was a meeting with the Pippins, Joel Smiddy, the builders of both houses, and the Warren County Water and Soil Conservation District to resolve the concerns.  There was discussion on the home builder adding landscaping to screen the unit.  She said the Zoning Department does not review anything to do with HVAC equipment.  This is the case in zoning with most jurisdictions.  There are a number of locations within the district where this is occurring.  Ms. McKnight said there is nothing in our code stating that HAVC units must not encroach into the 5 feet minimum setback.  The edge of the AC unit is approximately 2 feet from the property line.  Ms. McKnight read a letter dated 8/3/05, from the Pippins.  Ms. McKnight showed a photo of the AC unit on the house and the Pippin’s driveway beside it.  Cherry Linder said setback rules apply to structures and there are no zoning rules regarding Air Conditioning units.  Cherry asked so why are we hearing this case.  Ms. McKnight said that the case is being heard because the resident appealed and they have a right to appeal her  decision.  Cherry Linder asked what this has to do with zoning.  Andrew Gleason said that any resident that is affected by this Zoning Code has as a right to appeal that to this board.  Any plan which has been approved by the Zoning Inspector can be appealed.  Before any official legal action could be taken they must do this first.  Brian Leary asked where are the utilities located on the house of the person who complained.  Lois said they are on the back of the house facing Butler-Warren Road.  Jim Klatte asked if the house was completed and occupied.  Lois said yes.  Brian Leary said our current code covers the structure, not the AC unit.  Lois said correct.  Cherry Linder said so they are disputing the fact that the Zoning Inspector passed the house as is.  Brian Leary asked for the proponent to come forward.

 Proponent                             Anita Pippin, 7845 Plantation Drive, said there has been an on going drainage problem which has been corrected at the neighbor’s house and Fischer will be doing something on her property to correct her problem.  She said when her son tries to play basketball and the AC unit is 6 inches from the property line, she is concerned the ball will damage the unit.  She believes this closeness will hurt them when they decide to sell the home.  She doesn’t like the noise from the unit.  She said there are some units in the neighborhood which are in the back of the homes.  Jim Klatte asked her if the HOA is aware of the problems.  She said they are aware.  Ms. Pippin said in the book it says that one homeowner cannot prohibit the enjoyment of another homeowner.  Mike Kean asked if there is a gap between the AC unit and the brick wall of the house.  Ms. Pippin didn’t know about the gap.  Mr. Leary asked if there was anyone else who wanted to talk about this case.

  Garry Brasch, 11135 Montgomery Road, #Suite 8, Cinti., OH 45241, said he is the builder of the home at 7829 Plantation Drive.  Mr. Brasch distributed a list of 21 addressed in the same neighborhood where the homes have the AC unit located in the same place.  Mr. Brasch said they regraded the lot also to correct some drainage problems.  Mr. Brasch said he has met with Lois McKnight and the county two times to try to get an amicable solution to this.  All along from day one the homes were planned to drain from the back to the front of the homes then to the street.  Mr. Brasch said they regraded and put in a drain to try and remedy the water problem on Ms. Pippin’s yard.  Mr. Brasch said the list of 21 homes shows that there are many other homes with the AC units on the side.  Mr. Brasch said the occupants of the house at 7829 Plantation Drive were pleased and he believed they were in compliance. 

 Cherry Linder asked Mr. Brasch to explain what is involved and how expensive would it be to move the air conditioning unit.  Mr. Brasch said where the furnace is located indicates where the AC unit should go.  He said moving the Freon line is the biggest cost and he said the cost would be $400-$500 to move the line.  Mr. Brasch said if you put the unit on the back then there could be a patio and this could be noisy there.  He also explained moving the Freon line to the back of the house would affect the basement ductwork location; therefore finishing the basement would be more costly.  Mr. Leary closed discussion to the floor and asked for board discussion.

 

Discussion                             Mr. Leary said this is an unfortunate situation and suggested they camouflage or hide the unit.  Cherry Linder said she does not believe this is a zoning issue and does not agree with the appeal.

 

Motion                                    Motion by Cherry Linder to deny Case 2005-448, the appeal of the setback

at 7829 Plantation Drive.  2nd by James Klatte

Roll Call   James Klatte-Yes, William Heckman-Yes, Cherry Linder-Yes, Brian Leary-Yes, Mike Kean-Yes  The motion was approved.

 

Old Business

 

CASE 2005-265                      Continuation of Conditional Use in Residential Single Family , for a

Synagogue @ 8596 Lake Chetac Drive

Staff Report                           Maynank Kumar said the applicant has submitted a revised plan.  The parking spaces have been increased to 55.  The building will be made smaller with the decrease of the building by 33%.  He gave reports from various agencies.  The Deerfield Township Public Works reported that the 18 feet wide road at the time it was built was built to the Warren County Standard and is structurally sound.  The current standard is 24 feet wide.  The Deerfield Township Fire Rescue suggested no parking on either side of the street, leaving enough space for emergency vehicles to come down the street.  The Warren County Engineer does not believe there would be a problem with the 18 feet wide street since there are many other streets in the county and there are no problems with them.  The Engineer reported that the existing building is located within the 100 year flood plain which is confirmed through the FEMA maps.  Those limits are dependent on the computer model and the computer model assumes that the Lake Chetac dam is intact.  The dam has been breached for years and no longer holds back water.  The Engineers suggested a map amendment from FEMA which could be time consuming.  There also may be a need for flood insurance.  Mr. Kumar said that the township should require an elevation certificate stamped by a professional surveyor verifying that the lowest building floor is a minimum of 1 foot higher than the FEMA Base Flood Elevation.  Mr. Kumar said the board may approve or not approve but in the event of approval of this case there were 14 suggested conditions as follows:

 1.                    A formal set of drawings including all site improvement and details, drawn to scale not exceeding 1:100, shall be submitted addressing all the conditions listed below. No permit of any kind shall be issued without receipt of such information.

 2.                    All existing parking for the user of the facility shall be limited to on-site and shall not be permitted within the public right-of-ways.

3.                    The parking lot and access drives shall be improved in compliance with Section 20.05, Development and Maintenance of Parking Areas, of Deerfield Township Zoning Resolution. No parking stalls shall be located any closer than thirty-five (35) feet from the existing road.

 4.                    One (1) off-street loading space of 10’x25’ shall be required in compliance with Section 20.08, Off-Street Loading Design Standards, of Deerfield Township Zoning Resolution. The layout of provided loading space and handicap parking shall be modified to avoid any conflict for use of such spaces.

 5.                    A Landscaping Plan shall be submitted in compliance with Chapter 22, Bufferyards and Landscaping, of Deerfield Township Zoning Resolution including specifications (type and size) of all proposed planting materials.

 6.                    All activity on the entire facility shall be limited to 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. on any day.

 7.                    No part of the synagogue shall be used for living accommodations or transient lodging in any manner.

 8.                    Project lighting shall substantially comply with the Lighting Plan dated 7-06-05.

 9.                    Signage shall be in compliance with Chapter 22, Signs, of Deerfield Township Zoning Resolution.

 10.                 Owner shall provide a letter of approval from Warren County Engineer’s Office for the interior circulation, site improvement, and Stormwater Management.

 11.                 Owner shall provide a letter of approval from Deerfield Township Fire Department for interior circulation, emergency access, and location of fire hydrants.

 12.                 Owner shall provide a letter of approval from Warren County Soil and Water Conservation District for Soil and Erosion Control.

 13.                 Prior to issuance of Zoning Permit, owner shall provide an elevation certificate stamped by a professional surveyor verifying that the lowest building floor is a minimum of 1-foot higher that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Base Flood Elevation, which shall be confirmed by the Warren County Engineers’ Office.”

 14.                 Compliance with Warren County Subdivision Regulations, if applicable.

 Cherry Linder asked about the elevation of the structure.  If a older structure is in place is it “grandfathered in?”  Mr. Kumar said the original site was the industrial use.  If that industrial use was continued that would be grandfathered if it stopped for just a short time.  That use has not been there for over 5 years.

 Proponent                             Tim Branham, 6449 Snidercrest Road, Mason, thanked Mayank Kumar and the board for working on this and hearing the case again.  Mr. Branham introduced the engineer for the site.

 William R. Yoakam, 675 East State Route 73, Springboro, OH, thanked Mr. Kumar for his presentation and asked why his document that was submitted to Mr. Kumar, which he calls an elevation certification, was not accepted.  Mr. Yoakam said he spoke with the Warren County Engineer, Chuck Petty, and he believes this document he gave to the township is the one which the county required.  Mr. Yoakam said that the elevation of the floor of the building is 876.35.  Mr. Yoakam said the previous calculations from 1987 were considering the dam was intact.  The dam no longer exists therefore those calculations are no longer accurate.  He said the elevation of the water is lower since this dam is gone.  Mr. Yoakam said the elevation of the floor is 2 feet higher than what was in 1987 and the elevation of the lake is lower now since the dam is no longer there. 

 Martin Fish, 8903 Penfield Way, President of the Congregation, thanked the board for hearing this case.  Mr. Fish said that from last month’s meeting there were two issues, the traffic and parking issues.  He said they plan to demolish 1/3 of the building and have added more parking spaces.  Mr. Fish said he is concerned that to get that change on the FEMA maps amended would take a long time 3-6 months.  Mr. Fish said this is a one acre plat with the building falling apart and said this proposed use would be an improvement to this property.

 Barry Austern, 4421 Edenton Lane, Blue Ash,Treasurer of the Congregation, said if the building would be torn down and they decided to build a house on the site, the house would be in the flood plain also.

 Raymond Bolinger, 6813 Lake Chetac Drive, said he lives almost directly across the street from this property.  Mr. Bolinger said many people are purchasing old homes and tearing them down and putting in new homes.  He asked how the children in the classrooms would be transported.  He was concerned about traffic.  He was concerned about how adequate are the sewer lines. 

 Barry Austern, 4421 Edenton Lane, Blue Ash,Treasurer of the Congregation, said he worked for the EPA almost 35 years in waste water.  Mr. Austern said per capita use per person is about 50 gallons per day.  That includes toilet flushing, showering, clothes washing, dish washing, etc.  Mr. Austern said since the people will only be there a few days a week the waste water generated would not be as much as a house.  Mr. Leary asked about the synagogue classes and Mr. Austern said it would be like other churches, synagogue, mosques, etc. just a couple days each week.  Mayank said the report from Dick Renneker regarding the use of the Warren County Sanitary Sewer indicated that sewer line would be sufficient. 

 Mr. Leary asked Mayank what the board should do regarding the flood plain.  Mayank Kumar said regarding the flood plain, Condition #13, that he would make sure Chuck Pettey at Warren County Engineers reviewed that.  Lois said that Condition #13 should be changed to reflect that. 

 Mr. Leary said he wanted to bring up one other issue.  He said he noticed that Condition #6, limits the hours of operation.  Mr. Leary said traffic, parking, fire and rescue shouldn’t be an issue but that there would be concerns if this be occupied every day.  Cherry Linder said we should not be predicting the future.  Mr. Kean asked where the suggestion that the hours be from 8:00 to 11:00 came from.  Mr. Kumar said that this “limiting the hours” condition came from another case previously in 2001 at a church with a fellowship hall which was located in a residential neighborhood.  Mr. Klatte asked about the handicapped parking spot.  Mr. Kumar said they will get that resolved.  There was discussion on the request from the DTFR that parking be restricted on this street.  Mr. Kumar suggested adding to Condition #13 “which shall be confirmed by Warren County Engineers’ Office.”  Mr. Kean asked who would be responsible for applying to FEMA to get their model changed.  Mr. Kumar said that if the Warren County Engineers would not give their confirmation, they would give direction to the applicant on what they should do.

 

Motion                                    Motion by William Heckman to approve Case 2005-265 including the 14

Conditions with a modification to Condition #13.  There was a 2nd by Cherry

Linder.

Roll Call   James Klatte-Yes, William Heckman-Yes, Cherry Linder-Yes, Brian Leary-Yes, Mike Kean-Yes  The motion was approved.

 Ms. Linder said the congregation has made every effort to try to do what was asked.  Mr. Klatte thanked them for being willing to come back a second time.

 New Business                       Lois McKnight said that Mr. Andrew Gleason, our township attorney, will be moving to Arizona and will no longer be working with us.  Ms. McKnight said his law firm has a new person to work with us.  Mr. Gleason introduced Bridgette McGraw as our new township attorney.  Brian Leary welcomed Bridgette to work with us.

 Adjourn                                  Motion by Mike Kean to adjourn.  2ndby James Klatte

Roll Call   William Heckman-Yes, Cherry Linder-Yes, Brian Leary-Yes, James Klatte-Yes, Mike Kean-Yes  The motion was approved.

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Brian Leary, Chairperson                                 Date                 William Heckman, Secretary               Date

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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