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DEERFIELD TOWNSHIP

BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS

6:30 PM – MAY 10th, 2007

MINUTES

CALL TO ORDER:                     James Klatte, Chairman

ROLL CALL:                             William Heckman, Brian Leary, James Klatte, Mike Kean, and Alternate Greg Porta were

                                                all presents.  James Rinehart was absent with notice.  Dan Hendy, Township legal advisor was also in attendance.  Assistant Administrator Peggy Wheeler was also in attendance.

Minutes                                    Motion by Greg Porta to approve the minutes of 03/08/07 as was written.  Second by James Klatte.

Roll Call: Brian Leary-Abstained, James Klatte-Yes, Mike Kean-Yes, William Heckman-

Abstained, Greg Porta-Yes.  The motion was approved.

Mr. Klatte explained how the meeting would proceed.  Township attorney, Daniel Hendy administered the oath to those who planned on giving testimony. 

Case #2007-160                     Variance to Section 25.09 A.1, to construct an in ground pool in the back side

yard, 5 feet from the property line, 5562 Squire’s Gate Drive

Staff Report                             Hayfaa Wadih explained that the applicant wanted to build a pool in the side yard with a 5 feet setback.  The creek on the property made it impossible to put the pool in the area which would be in compliance with our zoning code.  The code requirement is a minimum 10 feet setback therefore a variance would be needed.  Brian Leary asked if there were any other pools in the area in the side yard?  Ms. Wadih said no.  Mr. Klatte asked for the applicant to speak. 

Proponent                                Todd Hiners, 5562 Squire’s Gate Drive, said that due to some health problems he decided to plan a pool for family enjoyment.  Brian Leary asked him if the size of the pool caused the need for the variance.  Mr. Hiners said the need comes from slope of the property and the location of the creek.  Mr. Hiners had the property re-surveyed and in the process to re-plat the two lots into one lot.  Ms. Wadih said the property was hilly.  Mr. Hiners said only a corner would be close to property line and they were waiting for plans from the landscaper and planner.  It is a quality pool that would cost $75,000-$100,000.  Mr. Porta asked if the extra lot is actually “unbuildable.  Mr. Hiners said Warren County put a sewer line there and it has been designated as “surplus land”, and he is trying to combine the two lots into one.  Mr. Klatte asked for any public who wanted to talk.  There was none.

Motion by Brian Leary to approve Case 2007-160 granting the variance for 5562 Squire’s Gate Drive.  2nd  by Greg Porta

 

Roll Call James Klatte-Yes, Brian Leary-Yes, William Heckman-Yes, Greg Porta-Yes,

Mike Kean-Yes; the motion was approved.

Dan Hendy asked the audience if any of them wanted to speak regarding a case to file out a form and turn it in to the board.

Case #2007-169                     Requesting Conditional Permitted Use adding 8 parking spaces located at the

Kings Mills Baptist Church Annex Building, 1659 Church Street

Staff Report                             Hayfaa Wadih explained the location of the subject property and said it was surrounded by residential use.  She explained that applicant is proposing to replace a grassy space of the Kings Mills Baptist Church Annex Building with eight (8) parking spaces.  She explained the church has a need for additional parking and that the church came before the board in 2005 with a request to build a garage which never materialized.  She pointed out the building and the grassy area and emphasized that staff would like to see some bushes as a buffer to protect the residential use on the adjacent property and there would be staff suggestions if the board would choose to approve the application.  Greg Porta asked if the 24 feet curb cut was already there.  Ms. Wadih said that area is now grass and that is where they propose the curb cut.  Brian Leary asked if there was a drainage easement or swale.  Ms. Wadih said no.  Mr. Klatte asked for the applicant to speak.

 

Proponent                                Larry Cunningham, Childers & Cunningham Architects, 2355  Park Avenue, Cinti., OH 45226, said he agreed with the suggestion from staff to add more landscaping on the three sides.  Mr. Cunningham said he has spoken with Warren County and he is planning to work with them (WC) if this is approved to comply with the Warren County storm water management requirement.  Brian Leary asked him if they would be presenting a landscaping plan to the staff.  Mr. Cunningham said they had a plan and the staff suggested adding more and they would be willing to do that.  Greg Porta asked for clarification on the current parking situation.  Mr. Klatte asked if there were more questions.  There were none.  He asked for any public who wanted to comment.  There was none.

Motion                                     Motion by Mike Kean to permit the conditional use in Case 2007-169 subject to the conditions as set forth by the staff.  Second by Mike Kean.

 

Roll Call: Mike Kean-Yes, James Klatte-Yes, Greg Porta-Yes, William Heckman-Yes, Brian Leary-Yes.  The motion was approved.

1.        The proposed Conditional Use will comply with all applicable regulations of this Resolution, including lot size requirements, development standards and use limitations.

2.        Adequate utility, drainage and other such necessary facilities have been or will be provided.  

3.        Adequate access roads or entrance and exit drives will be provided and will be so designed as to prevent traffic hazards and to minimize traffic conflicts and congestion to public street and alleys. 

4.        All necessary permits, and licenses for the use and operations of the Conditional Use have been obtained, or evidence has been submitted that such permits and licenses are obtainable for the proposed Conditional Use on the subject property.

5.        The location and size of the Conditional Use, the nature and intensity of the operation involved or conducted in connection with it, the size of the site in relation to it, and the location of the site with respect to streets giving access to it, shall be such that it will be in harmony with the appropriate and orderly development of the district in which it is located.

6.        The location, nature, and height of the building, structures, walls, and fences on the site and the nature and extent of landscaping and screening on the site shall be such that the use will not unreasonably hinder or discourage the appropriate development, use and enjoyment of adjacent land, buildings and structures.

7.        Evidence that the Conditional Use desired will not adversely affect the public health, safety and morals.  

Case #2007-180                     Requesting a Modification to the Approved Conditional Use adding a ground

mounted sign at the southeast corner of the site, for the North Cincinnati

Community Church, 6170 Irwin-Simpson Road  

Staff Report                             Hayfaa Wadih explained the location of the proposed sign on the property.  The proposed sign was 192 inched by 175 inches high.  Ms. Wadih quoted the code requirement for signs.  The sign would be 40 square feet.  The property is a panhandle lot which does not have much frontage.  There is currently a ground mounted sign on the property.  Ms. Wadih believed the proposed sign would replace the old one.  Greg Porta asked if the previous sign had a permit.  Ms. Wadih said she couldn’t find that a permit was done for that sign.  Brian Leary asked if there were any other signs like this one in the area.  Ms. Wadih said she didn’t believe there were any similar signs nearby.  Mr. Klatte asked for the applicant to come forward.

Proponent                                Senior Pastor Walter Wood, 4544 Placepoint Drive, Mason, OH., said this was the culmination of Phase 1 of a building program which started in 2001 and 2002.  He said they rented space in 1994 for the church and the township was instrumental in directing the church to this vacant land owned by George and Betty Rogers.  He said that budget concerns didn’t allow them to build a permanent sign at their entrance earlier.  He said the sign would be ground illuminated and he wanted their property to be an asset to the community.  He said the length of their name is one of the reasons for the requested size of the sign. 

Board Questions                      Brian Leary asked if there would be landscaping around the sign.  Mr. Wood said yes there would.  He said there was a landscape plan for around the sign.  Jim Klatte asked if the lighting would be on a timer.  Mr. Wood said all of their lights, driveway lights and parking lot lights were on a timer.  Mike Kean asked how they arrived at the size of this sign.  Mr. Wood said they considered the visibility issues and the length of the name.  The base of it matched our architecture.  Mr. Kean asked if there were other signs such as an entrance or exit signs.  Mr. Wood said no.  Mr. Klatte asked if there were other questions.  There were none so he asked for the architect to come forward.

Rob Steiner, Hi-Tech Signs, 4575 Thunderbird Lane, Fairfield, OH 45214, said he was the architect of the sign.  Mr. Klatte asked how they came up with the large, non-compliant size for the sign.  Mr. Steiner explained the process of coming up with this size due to visibility factor and long name.  Mr. Porta asked if the temporary sign would come down.  They said the old sign would be removed.  Bill Heckman said he had a difficult time believing the zoning code compliant size sign would not be visible.  Mr. Steiner said the base of the sign is stone to match their building.  Brian Leary said the sign is 50% over the code required size and height.  Mr. Steiner said that he could decrease the base to come up with the five (5) feet maximum height.  Mr. Klatte asked for any more questions.

Senior Pastor Walter Wood, 4544 Placepoint Drive, Mason, OH, said the size of the present temporary sign was installed from the beginning and he said he would take responsibility for that and he apologized for the fact that it was not in compliance with the township zoning rules and that it was not properly permitted.  Mr. Klatte asked for any more people who wanted to speak.  There was none.  He closed this portion of the meeting.

Board Questions                      Brian Leary said aesthetically it was one of the nicer signs they have seen.  Mike Kean said it could be made smaller but they could leave the lettering the same size.  The board discussed this issue.  Mr. Klatte asked for Pastor Wood to come back to the podium.  Mr. Klatte said a sign this size is way out of what we could approve and asked him if he could make some changes.

Senior Pastor Walter Wood, 4544 Placepoint Drive, Mason, OH, said he would certainly adhere to the wishes of the board but said he believed he needed this size.

There was more discussion among the board members regarding making the sign smaller.  Brian Leary said the width didn’t bother him as much as the height.  They suggested five (5) feet with a sign face area of 32 square feet.  Ms. Wadih worked with the board on what they wanted in the motion.

 

Motion                                     Motion by Mike Kean to approve Case 2007-180 with modification to their original plan including 3 conditionsSecond by Brian Leary

Roll Call: Greg Porta-No, James Klatte-Yes, William Heckman-Yes, Brian Leary-Yes, Mike Kean.  The motion was approved.

1.        Approval of one (1) ground mounted sign to replace the existing sign. The said sign shall have a maximum height of five (5) feet and a maximum sign face area of 32 square feet.

2.         Sign shall be located on the same lot to which it is an accessory use and shall be located no closer than five (5) feet from the right of way.

3.        If lighting is added, lights shall not cause any disturbance/blur onto the right of way.

Case #2007-181                     Requesting Conditional Permitted Use for a religious place of worship, Section

10.04, Deerfield Township Zoning Resolution for Konstantin Misyukovets, located

Staff Report                             Hayfaa Wadih explained the location, number of parking spaces, buffer, size of building, and elevation.  Ms. Wadih explained the number of meetings per week and which days they would take place.  She also talked about how most churches are built in residential areas as a conditional use.  She talked about the history of several other churches in the Landen area.  She said no traffic impact study would be needed due to the hours they would be meeting in the building.  Ms. Wadih said staff talked to Warren County Water and Soil Conservation in order to avoid any negative storm water impact on the surrounding community.  She said many residents have called her regarding the wooded area behind the church with their concerns. 

Greg Porta asked if the fire department had reviewed this plan.  Ms. Wadih said no, not until approval would they get involved.  Mr. Porta said he still would like to know the fire department’s impression.  Ms. Wadih said Mr. Porta could table the case if he feels more information is needed.  Brian Leary asked if this lot was residential and wanted to see where the former house was located.  Ms. Wadih said even if a house was built there many trees would probably have to be removed.  Mr. Klatte closed this portion of the meeting and asked for the proponent to come forward.

Proponent                                Konstantin Misyukovets, 851 Conners Court, Loveland, OH, said the church purchased the lot five months ago.  Their church started five years ago.  They have a congregation of around 100 and they purchased this lot because of the location and price.  They are currently meeting at Beth Messiah’s building.  He said he has planned to work with the Zoning Department to save the trees in the back and even plant more. 

Board Questions                                  Greg Porta asked about the building since the board had no idea what the building would look like.  Mr. Misyukovets said they would try to make the building look like the residential homes nearby with stucco and brick and be no higher than a two story house.  Mr. Porta asked about the use of the back side of the building.  Mr. Misyukovets said that would be for offices and classrooms.  Mr. Porta asked if the front of the building was one story and back would be two story.  Mr. Misyukovets said that was correct.  Mr. Porta was very concerned about the closeness of the resident in the cul-de-sac and he said the 15 feet buffer on the side of the building would not be very much.  Mr. Misyukovets said they could change the back two story area of the building to one story.  Brian Leary was concerned about the height of the proposed building and two different heights shown.  Hayfaa Wadih said his first application did not include the façade.  In the beginning that was an estimate but the second application had the correct height detail.  Ms. Wadih said the church worked with the staff to comply with the code and on the 15 feet on the side. 

Dan Hendy said it was this board’s responsibility to see if this plan could fit into the residential character of the neighborhood and if this would be approved, for the board to make sure of that.  Jim Klatte asked about the use of the building and working with troubled teens.  Mr. Misyukovets said that was not a full time ministry but that he would be interested in helping those who are in need.  Brian Leary asked about the windows shown there and would there be window treatments.  Mr. Misyukovets said there would be curtains.  Bill Heckman asked what is south of the property.  Ms. Wadih explained that to the south was a single family home.  Mr. Klatte asked if there were any other proponents who wanted to speak.

Gene Petropavlovskiy, 6910 Sequoia Court, Mason, OH, said his neighbor recently built a barn 10 feet from his property line.  He said he loved this country and has been here for 15 years and he likes it because of equal rights.  He said he sees himself like the early Americans who immigrated to this country.  He said they have been renting from Beth Messiah for three years and he pointed out on the map where Beth Messiah was located and to the single family residential n the surrounding. He stressed that the building would be attractive.  He came to this country for the freedom and to pursue the dream of practicing his religion freely.  He asked the residents to love them and the Russians will be a blessing to them.  Mr. Klatte asked him to address the board not the audience. 

Edgar Sergut, 1717 Cottingtin, said he came to America 15 years ago as a refugee.  He said his grandfather was jailed and his nephew was persecuted under the Soviet terror.  He said he was in America for the freedom.  He said he was in shock because of the reaction of some of the people.  He was surprised to see many people would be against a church building.  There were no more speakers for the proponent so Mr. Klatte asked for the public to come and speak.

Mike Kean told the Russian church people that this case is about a structure and not against people and the board is here to review the case in term of building compatibility use with the area.

Mr. Klatte said the board would be hearing comments from concerned citizens and he told them they would be limited to talking for three minutes.

Concerned Citizens                 Pat Lester, 8862 Pollard Place, said she loves living here and this is a very peaceful place to live.  She asked the board to reject this church structure due to storm water concerns.  She heard in an earlier case that North Community Church has 15 acres.  She said this lot was too small.  She was concerned about her property values.  Greg Porta told her that the drainage in her back yard should not get any worse due to the fact that Warren County would be reviewing plans prior to any more development.

Matthew Ritter, 8899 Pollard Place, talked about some growth and negative changes near his neighborhood.  He was concerned about the large size of the building on the narrow lot and the safety issues in case of fire.  He told the church that he hoped they could find another property.

Carrie Herron, 8874 Pollard Place, said the residents are not negative about the Russian people.  She asked the staff what day of the week the traffic engineers looked at the traffic.  Ms. Wadih said they did not come out here but looked at a traffic impact study and using the size of the building calculating the number of cars.  Ms. Herron said Beth Messiah was built prior to the building of the neighborhood behind it so that is why that has worked.  Ms. Herron said a group of residents tried to purchase this property and keep it for green space and the group would still be interested in purchasing this property.

Frank Kraller, Underwater World, 8835 & 8837 Columbia Road, was upset about storm water almost getting into his pool.  He asked for something to be done about the storm water problem on all of these properties.  He said Carstar is planning to expand and they will make the problem worse.  He said there was nothing on the church’s plan to manage the storm water.  They need a retention pond.  Mr. Klatte said they would take the drainage issue into consideration in the future.

Joe Hawk, 8823 Lea Place, said his driveway is a waterfall.  He said since the senior housing development was built he has had drainage problems.  The storm water is a real problem.

Steve Freeze, 8820 Lea Place, said he backs up to Columbia Road.  He appreciated that the CVS lighting is non-intrusive and he thanked the township for that.  He sometimes has a stream in his yard when it rains.  He was concerned about the storm water situation.

Bryan Edens, 8827 Lea Place, had reviewed the staff report.  He had some photos and he pointed out some other conditional uses in the surrounding area.  He used as examples Lakeview Church and Beth Messiah and their larger buffers, privacy fencing, and setbacks.  They have adequate drainage.  Mike Kean asked him how much of his yard included the trees in the photo.

George Williams, 8815 Lea Place, was concerned about drainage, noise, and intrusive lighting. 

Ruth Eldridge, 8821 Columbia Road, owned the property next door to the church and was at the meeting to oppose the church going in.  She asked that the area stay residential and not be changed by having a church or businesses.  The board asked her about her drainage and she said the property is wet and the driveway gets water across it.

Len Eldridge, 8821 Columbia Road, said he would be looking directly at the church.  He said the other churches built recently have had larger lots. 

Board Comments                     Mr. Klatte closed the public portion of the meeting and asked for board discussion.  Mr. Klatte asked if the number of parking spaces comply with the code requirement.  Ms. Wadih said after the fire department reviews the plan they could make changes.  Bill Heckman asked if the office square footage would affect the parking.  Ms. Wadih said she used just the church when she did the staff report.  Brian Leary said they could build a house there today and take all of the trees away.  He said this is a transitional area. The board asked for the possibility of submitting professional plans.  Ms. Wadih said that his is an expense on the applicant with no warrantee that this project will be approved.  If the board sees this a good use for the area then applicant has to provide detailed professional plans and be reviewed by the Zoning Commission. Mr. Heckman said the building is not in character with residential structures.  Ms. Wadih said she went to the site with the engineer.  The engineer didn’t believe the water problem would not be made worse by putting the church there but a detention pond would help.  Mr. Heckman the detention pond may be where the parking would be and that would decrease parking.

Brian Leary said he applauded their efforts to put a church in but sooner or later something will go in there.  That could allow that transition from residential to commercial.  Bill Heckman said we could approve it with so many restrictions but he is more inclined to oppose it.  Applicant could come back with another plan.  Greg Porta said there would be so many restrictions they may not want to pursue this.  Dan Hendy said this board could share some concerns with them so they would have some knowledge.  Mr. Heckman said he would feel better seeing all the materials, seeing a report from the fire department, and seeing a report from the storm water management people.  Mr. Heckman said he would need more information for an approval. 

Motion                                                 Motion by Bill Heckman to decline the conditional use at 8801 Columbia Road.   2nd by Greg Porta

 

Roll Call: Mike Kean-Yes, James Klatte-Yes, Greg Porta-Yes, William Heckman-Yes, Brian Leary-Yes. The motion was approved.

Old Business                            Motion by Brian Leary to continue the current board for the remainder of the year.

                                                2nd by Bill Heckman

                                                Roll Call: Mike Kean-Yes, James Klatte-Yes, Greg Porta-Abstain, Bill Heckman-Yes,

Brian Leary-Yes.  The motion was approved..  

Adjourn                                    Motion to adjourn by  Bill Heckman Second by Mike Kean.

 

Roll Call: Brian Leary-Yes, James Klatte-Yes, William Heckman-Yes, Mike Kean-Yes

Greg Porta-Yes.  The motion was approved.

                                                               

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James Klatte, Chairperson                                  Date                 William Heckman, Secretary                                   Date

 

 

 

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